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Beautifully put. As always, Ms Pluckrose articulates the mishmash of ideas swimming around in my head and gives them a coherence they wouldn’t otherwise have.

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I agree fully with what Helen has said.

An intertwined topic would be the nature of that accountability. As Helen would know from CounterWeight, accountability can take the form of thouroughly dehumanizing behaviour. Also, as others have said (Andrew Doyle, Douglas Murrey,...), there is no space for redemption or foregiveness.

Then you have the problem of personality traits, especially when they go into the realm of a disorder. Such people are attracted to positions of power which amplifies their destructiveness.

In other words, I am talking of the severety of such "accountability" and who makes the determination. Our legal systems have elaborate mechanisms to handle such matters.

There are no such protective systems within civil sociiety as it stands.

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Very true. We can only try to push things in a more liberal direction culturally. I often think of the culture wars that led to the Common Book of Prayer. Such massive polarisation between Catholics and Protestants and the public got so sick of extremists of all kinds and the Common Book of Prayer reflected that by being able to be affirmed by anyone (assuming they were Christian - baby steps). I keep hoping that we'll get to a place where what people are mostly sick of is authoritarianism rather than any ideology and we'll push through to a culture of greater tolerance.

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Very well said.

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